For deer and black bear it is limited by its trajectory, not its killing power. The .308 family of cartridges came along very shortly after the release of the parent; the .308 was issued to the hunting world in 1952, and Winchester kept the momentum going by bringing the .243 Winchester and .358 Winchester to the public just three years later. I’m no audiophile. Built on the .308 case and “necked-up” to hold a .338-diameter bullet, the load offers hunters a faster muzzle velocity than traditional favorites like the .308 Win., with a heavier bullet to boot. 02-07-2019, 09:55 PM #3. The .338 Federal is the first rifle cartridge to bear the Federal name on its headstamp, so it is an important step for the Company. It’s easy on the shoulder—much like the rest of the .308 family—plenty accurate, and as almost all of the factory loads generate over 3,000 ft.-lbs. Read this short article that compares it to some more popular rounds like the 30-06 etc. Why the hell would you mount a scope that high on any rifle? 3. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. And being “The National Caliber of Alaska”, most available .338 Win Mag bullets aren’t exactly of the soft and fragile kind to begin with. while generating recoil between 308 and 30’06. It would also be more affordable to the deer hunter who is not a reloader. After loving my .338WMs for so long, I started shooting my .338-06. The .338 Federal is the first rifle cartridge to bear the Federal name on its headstamp, so it is an important step for the Company. Me, I want a .338LM in a semi auto package that isn’t fragile, can hold 1 moa, comes in at 10 pounds or less and doesn’t cost $6k+. The difference being, none of those hold 20. will kick up 36.1 foot pounds of shoulder smacking recoil. In a lightweight rifle, the recoil will be considerably greater, and probably quite unpleasant to the vast majority of shooters. Most important, here are the approximate recoil figures for that load when fired in an 8 pound rifle: Note that this load, unlike the Premium factory loads, is below the 20 ft. lb. The Win. I am convinced that heavy recoil, more than any other factor, is what has limited the popularity of all the previous standard medium bore cartridges, including the .33 Winchester, .348 Winchester, .35 Winchester, .356 Winchester, .358 Winchester, and .35 Whelen. For that purpose, I’d rather see it integrally suppressed with 18″ of rifled barrel in a bolt action rifle. The .338 Federal should be particularly attractive to reloaders, who can tailor loads to their specific needs. Federal's offering is based on a .308 Winchester case necked-up to accept standard .338" diameter bullets. The maximum cartridge overall length is supposed to be 2.86", rather than the 2.81" of the .308, but Federal factory loaded ammo is reportedly being loaded to a length not greater than 2.80". This seems like a range toy more than anything given the setup. Naturally, it kicks a lot less than the .338 Win. Copyright 2005, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. The reason I have any clue at all about this rather exotic caliber, is that I once, visiting Alaska, asked a local guide what he though about me getting a Kimber Montana chambered in .338 Federal, as I’m no fan of Win Mag recoil and blast. Lots of 18″ guns are clocking the full advertised velocity. You would be able to pick whatever you wanted. Makes the same energy and ballistics. Expansion stops when the bottom of the hollow point cavity is reached. Federal's offering is based on a .308 Winchester case necked-up to accept standard .338" diameter bullets. Sigh. At the target velocity a conventional soft point bullet will offer all the penetration I'll ever need, and probably kill quicker and shoot more accurately than a premium bullet. It might be a viable choice for a combination deer/elk hunt. All are spitzer bullets with pointed noses. 2. Please listen to a better class of “ballistic experts”. gun reviews; guns 101; videos; email; facebook; contact us; rss; Skip to content. Zero’ed 3 inches high at 100 yard puts you just 10 inches down at 300 yards while still generating roughly 1600 FPE at that distance. The Guns of James Bond: Roger Moore. According to Federal ballistics data, the 338 Federal pushes a 180-grain Nosler AccuBond from the muzzle at 2,840 fps to produce 3,223 foot pounds energy. Also, have an open mind. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Most .30-06 rifles, for example, shoot 180 grain bullets very well. It was probably created more than 40 years ago by a wildcatter (basement handloader) who stretched the neck of the 308 Winchester case to fit a .338 bullet. http://img.izismile.com/img/img9/20160422/640/funny_picdump_1196_640_29.jpg. But there is potential danger in that course. Privacy Policy • Contact Us • Warnings • FAQs • © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Head to Head: 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Behind the Bullet: .300 Winchester Short Magnum, Head to Head: 7x57mm Mauser vs. .280 Remington, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. I’m guessing that a typical 338 200gr load is moving roughly 2500 fps out of a 16 inch barrel. Springfield Gets Into Hunting Bolt Guns with New Model 2020 Line. But forget that. Which part? Its been documented that one can hit 2500 fps with 200 gr 338 fed loads. I guess a 210gr pill at around 2500fps isn’t enough to impress most of you folks. In a market saturated with highly successful standard cartridges like the 270 Win. Nosler Partition. The magazine might end up being the real nut to break on this cartridge, but if done so, you’d have 7mm RemMag ballistics in an AR. The new .338 Federal can be adapted to any rifle suitable for the .308 Winchester. All rights reserved. Only when it and a few of his buddies are charging you…. If you spent money on glass that you don’t like, that sounds like a personal issue. I don’t know if Browning still makes their semi auto hunting rifle but that was one sweet package. Has anyone tested out the .338 Federal in the Sako 85. …however, larger caliber “AR10” pattern rifles don’t have the same parts interchangeability that standard AR15 rifles boast. 200 grains is particularly popular and this bullet weight is a good match for the case capacity of the .338 Federal. 338 performance suffers less in a short barrel due to its larger diameter which in turn gives you more barrel volume allowing for a more complete powder burn for equal lengths of barrel. Why the hell would you do a 14″ or 16″ 338? by Philip Massaro - The .338 Federal from Wilson Combat is ideal for any medium-large game hunting in North America including trophy wild hogs, elk, moose and bear. (It should be remembered that O'Connor proposed his .338 well before the invention of the .308 cartridge.) Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Now you’ve got me nit-picking meaningless points about this rifle. The heavier 225 and 250 grain .338 bullets popular in the .338 Win. Maybe you have a little pin head and need a much lower mount. The rim diameter is .470", rim thickness .049", base diameter .470", shoulder angle 20 degrees and case length 2.015." About the same as a 30-06. With the same bullet weight, the .338 Federal will better the velocities of the .308 Winchester by 200 to 250 fps, though the sectional density of the .30-caliber bullets will be better than the .338s. The 338 Federal hiccups just 24.2 foot pounds. I see this as Federal's .338 deer load. Your money is much better spent on a $300 Leupold.) At 400 yards the load is carrying 2,027 ft.-lbs. Federal took their new .338 in a different direction than the .338x57 O'Connor, choosing to maximize performance rather than control recoil. Advertising hype aside, the .338 Federal is potentially a well-balanced and effective hunting cartridge. Mag. Hunters who feel a need for a medium bore rifle cartridge will find that the .338 Federal kicks a little less than the .338-06 A-Square with the same weight bullet at the same velocity, because the .338 Federal burns less powder to achieve the same pressure.
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